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31 March 2008 @ 06:11 am
Translation Of Movie News  

As a young man Daigo looked up to Ultraman on the TV, and dreamed of being a spaceship captain. Now he's grown up to be a perfectly average man who is an ordinary government worker working in a tourist bureau in Yokohama.

He's surrounded by his childhood friends, Asuka and Gamu, who he'd talk together with about their dreams; his girlfriend Rena; and Hayata, Dan, Goh and Hokuto. They're all normal people living happily with their families.

In this world Ultraman and monsters don't really exist.

But all of a sudden King Gesra appears in Yokohama Bay.
Following after him, Ultraman Moebius appears!

Ultramen shouldn't exist, so why?

Daigo's in a panic as before long monsters, crossing over space and time, appear one after another and overrun Yokohama. Moebius ends up in hot water.

What's going to happen to this world?
And who are these "7 heroes" Moebius says will save everyone from this unprecidented danger?

Then Daigo realizes the great purpose that's been imposed on him...

Well... Honestly, after reading this I've lost most of my enthusiasm for the movie. The screenplay writer is Hasegawa Keiichi, who wrote many of the episodes of Mebius I most enjoy (ditto on Tiga), so I'm trying to reserve judgment. At the same time... the alt-verse-ness makes me less enthused.

It took me a while to figure out what about that makes me not so excited. In general I don't care much for alt-verses (for all that I write in one). On this one I think what's bugging me is, fundamentally, these aren't the characters I fell in love with. Yeah, the actors are the same, and the folks in the alternate universe may be similar, but... I dunno. They aren't the same. Part of the experiences that make the characters who they are is missing. And while I'm sure these clones are perfectly nice, they're still just not the originals. But I'll miss wise old Hayata from the movie, talking about how Ultramen aren't gods, or Jack calling Moebius "rookie".

That said, there are some things I find intriguing. Mirai (assuming he gets to remain the same) gets to be the knowledgeable one this time, a concept that fascinates me. (And was, in fact, where Of Kids and Kittens originated out of.) Does he still get to be the wide-eyed kid? How will his personality have to torque to accommodate this new role?

The world described sounds like our own. This seems to me to be a story of what would happen if one day we woke up and suddenly the weather forecast called for monster showers, with occasional Ultramen. That could be a lot of fun to poke at

I like the way Ultraman shows up following after the first monster this world has seen. It sounds very reminiscent of where original Ultraman started, and seems a nice touch to me.

I'm sure I have more thoughts on this, but it's late and I need to get some sleep. So I will end here for now.

Randomly, this link has a bunch more information, along with more pictures. I'll finish reading it/translate pertinent parts tomorrow night.
VerusMaya IIverusmayaii on March 31st, 2008 10:01 pm (UTC)
Your thoughts on the movie explained perfectly what I felt took away some of my anticipation also.

It might all depend on when this takes place after the Mebius TV series, but assuming it's not too long, Mirai will still be pretty innocent. Seems to me like he'll be startled by the Ultraman-less world, not to mention Hayata and co. not being Ultramen. Of course, he could also rise to the challenge and completely prove my speculation wrong, so in the very least it'll be interesting to see where he goes with this.
Sandpanthersandpanther on April 1st, 2008 07:44 am (UTC)
It occurs to me that it doesn't have to take place after the TV series. Since none of the kyoudai are themselves (as it were), it can happen whenever. Currently I'm also batting around the idea that maybe this ends up being 100% alt-verse, and Mebius/Mirai is just this Ultraman dude who doesn't necessarily have a lot of relation to the one we know. Since it makes very little sense to me that he'd suddenly up and say there are seven heroes who will save the world. Him not knowing Tiga, Dyna or Gaia, I'd expect him to only name the kyoudai.

I'm currently holding onto a theory that, for Reasons Unknown But Soon To Be Explained, the story involves six Ultramen who were somehow brainwashed into thinking they were living happily ever after in Yokohama, and things move on from there. Since there are a lot of random bits and pieces I've heard that aren't all adding up for this movie. (I had a lot of staring out train windows and making unhappy faces while thinking about what we've been told so far yesterday.)
VerusMaya IIverusmayaii on April 1st, 2008 01:12 pm (UTC)
Mirai might have some kind of influence or advice here. I can easily see Taro or Zoffy making a cameo and telling Mebius some kind of legend or history of TDG. Of course, I don't have much of a clue on where that'd fit into the movie, but it seems like something they'd do.

I like your theory a lot, and I hope it's true. It'd make for a better, more compelling story.
I'm under the impression Tsuburaya knows what the fans want, and seeing Ultraman that's not really Ultraman is not on the list. If the six Ultras were really brainwashed, it'd be a story of overcoming and awakening, not discovering.
VerusMaya IIverusmayaii on April 2nd, 2008 12:50 am (UTC)
Retconning my own speculation here. After doing a bit of digging around, I realized I completely forgot about that red-shoed girl or whoever. It seems she's the one who tells Mirai to awaken the "seven heroes". So, he's pretty much a messenger.
Nikki's Cornersennetari on April 2nd, 2008 05:03 am (UTC)
Oh, that makes sense. If Mirai is simply a messenger, that would account for him knowing more than he should if he were the original Mirai. Might be of interest, but the Gaia movie also has a young girl with possibly a similar role to the red-shoed girl's. In fact, they might be the same character for all I know.
(Anonymous) on April 2nd, 2008 11:29 am (UTC)
Oh yeah... The red-shoed girl is one of the things that I breezed past while only half awake, and is on my list of things to dump onto the laptop to read later. She is, at the moment, in total WTF land for me.
Nikki's Cornersennetari on April 2nd, 2008 05:01 am (UTC)
I'm currently holding onto a theory that, for Reasons Unknown But Soon To Be Explained, the story involves six Ultramen who were somehow brainwashed into thinking they were living happily ever after in Yokohama, and things move on from there.

I have similar thoughts while I was sitting around bored in the hospital (waiting for my parents) yesterday. In addition to the brainwash theory (actually my thoughts are closer to warped space and time done by something not necessarily evil), the possibility of this whole thing taking place inside a dream also occurs to me. (Current leading candidate: Asuka's; nope, I currently have no explanation on how he can dream about, besides Daigo, the people he has never met, and why Daigo is the main character, not him. The idea has precedence in the Dyna TV series, that's all I'm going to say).

(And six Ultramen? I'm probably missing some information because I thought there were seven of them (Tiga, Dyna, Gaia, Man, Seven, Jack, Ace) without a clue.)

The main thing is, as you say, these characters, until there are official information saying otherwise, are different people who happen to share the same names as the characters we know and love. Yet, somehow, as verusmayaii says, I just believe that Tsuburaya would respect the fans' feelings and not making the big anticipated team-up movie to be, except for the names, about the characters we know virtually nothing about. So I'm pretty sure there will be a surprise twist, hopefully a pleasant one.
UltraM2000 - 外国女性熱中人: determinedmadsqueeble on March 31st, 2008 11:10 pm (UTC)
I'm...sorta curious as to how Mebi—MEBI!—knows about these Seven Heroes. UM has seen Tiga before so he MAY tell Mebius about him, that they were not alone, so T and D are out. But Gaia? The Hayata-Akiko-Rena family was a nice touch, tho. XD

Was really hoping for some concrete(?) connections between the myriad universes, but I guess I'll have to wait for the actual release. BRING IT TO MALAYSIA, DARN IT. CHAIYO IS GONE.

Also, can I quote your opinion in a future Ultrandom blog post?
Cirdancirdan_havens on April 1st, 2008 06:21 am (UTC)
Thus saieth the wise Ultraseven X in days of old to Mebi: There shall be seven fighters, seven heroes, seven, seven, seven...

We've seen the four living random normal lives before so I suspect yapool or some other friendly foe has mind-wiped them. Maybe something similar to what Mefilas did to GUYS? And the Ultramen existed but the human hosts have forgotten. The slight exception/change is Dan, who is actually that mountaineer Jiro. *nod nod* Or maybe they'll use it as an opportunity to "officially" pass the torch to new younger human hosts. Then it's all in series continuity and they don't need to keep calling back the old guys.

Reminds me of the Gaia movie, and I have to say that wasn't all that great but was fun for having Tiga and Dyna show up. Oh, and Gamu flying out of the sky/ocean upside down. More effects than plot. So maybe the same intention here. A pity but guess it's something for us to see. And gives them evil opportunities to insert children. That dratted movie had 6 of them! Give each of the kids an alternate Ultraman form (sorry, Ace, you have to be the little girl with the red backpack) and Daigo stays the same and we're ready to rock.

Guess we'll see how it goes. But it might also depend on their target audience. Having paid tribute to the past, they might not be targeting the older audience interested in canon but the younger fans who don't care how it happens but wants more Ultras. And having 8 in one movie is probably preferable to 4 (5?) different Tigas in one movie. More variety in a better way.
Nikki's Cornersennetari on April 2nd, 2008 05:07 am (UTC)
And the Ultramen existed but the human hosts have forgotten. The slight exception/change is Dan, who is actually that mountaineer Jiro.

So, you are saying that there is no Dan but only Jiro (who may or may not be dead) in the movie universe? I wonder if this is the info I'm missing...
Cirdancirdan_havens on April 2nd, 2008 09:25 am (UTC)
Just me speculating, not any real info.
(Anonymous) on April 2nd, 2008 11:33 am (UTC)
So, you are saying that there is no Dan but only Jiro (who may or may not be dead) in the movie universe? I wonder if this is the info I'm missing...

I haven't seen that in anything... but then, I'm getting my information by running through web sites when dead tired, so I'm sure I'm missing a lot. I just picked up Newtype the Live, which has a big article on both the movie and Armoured Darkness, so we will see if I can get more of a clue after reading it.
Cirdancirdan_havens on April 1st, 2008 06:24 am (UTC)
What's going to happen to this world?

Oh, and Daigo, working in the Yokohama tourist bureau, will suddenly find an insane number of fans trying to visit the city when, in truth, they should be avoiding such dangers.
Sandpanthersandpanther on April 1st, 2008 07:31 am (UTC)
Ugh, speaking of dangers... The only time I've been off the train in Yokohama I was seriously scared if I fell down I would be trampled do death. Never been in such a tightly packed herd before.
UltraM2000 - 外国女性熱中人madsqueeble on April 1st, 2008 07:42 am (UTC)
Say it with me, about two inches down your throat.

Sandpanthersandpanther on April 1st, 2008 07:51 am (UTC)
*ponders* I do have the option of changing trains in Yokohama on the way to the giant penis festival. I wonder if I should...?
Cirdancirdan_havens on April 1st, 2008 08:59 am (UTC)
combined to form: Ultraman giant penis festival! Knew those bulges between the legs couldn't just be decorative.
UltraM2000 - 外国女性熱中人: negativemadsqueeble on April 1st, 2008 11:05 pm (UTC)

That sound you heard? My brain breaking. You definitely owe me a new one.

Man, Gimos and Tsuge and the rest of them would LOVE you. XD
Cirdancirdan_havens on April 1st, 2008 11:50 pm (UTC)
You won't like the new one I give you. ;) It's just as inadvertently naughty.
Sandpanthersandpanther on April 1st, 2008 07:50 am (UTC)
Yeah, I'm really baffled on how Mebi knows anything about TDG. It makes no sense to me, and is one of the reasons I'm starting to suspect that he's from a universe a little removed from the one we know as well.

Ah, I hadn't caught the Hayata-Akiko-Rena family thing. Yes, that is a nice touch. Stuff like that gives me some hope this will turn out better than I'm anticipating.

Yeah, giving some reasonable connection between the universes would be nice. Particularly since the Heisei guys keep showing up in stage shows with the Showa (+Mebi +Hikari) guys.

Sure, knock yourself out and quote away. I'll be impressed if anything I said was coherent, since I was so tired I was about to pass out.
UltraM2000 - 外国女性熱中人: fangirlismmadsqueeble on April 1st, 2008 11:11 pm (UTC)
> reasonable connection and stage shows

Heh, yeah, that too—and everyone cooperating like one big old happy family. I mean, technically they are, sorta, but we've clearly seen Ultraman Just Doesn't Exist/Is Just A A TV Show in some series/universes. Tiga (and maybe Dyna) is/are so much older than the rest of them! Does this affect anything? Interdimensional portals aren't going to cut it all the time. Think of the canon, Tsuburaya. :O

One other thing bothers me about this movie: exactly the same thing that bugged me about Mebi + Kyoudai. Why the A-mask?!
Nikki's Cornersennetari on April 2nd, 2008 05:09 am (UTC)
The Hayata-Akiko-Rena family was a nice touch, tho.

Ah, I'm apparently dense today because I need help understanding that. ^^;
UltraM2000 - 外国女性熱中人madsqueeble on April 2nd, 2008 09:56 am (UTC)
All cool. Simply divide the statement into two parts:

1. Hayata is married to Fuji (yay)
2. Kurobe Susumu IS Yoshimoto Takami's father.