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09 September 2007 @ 09:43 pm
Mebi Answers  
Pulling this into a separate post rather than comments on cirdan_haven's journal, since I figure there are some other folks who'd be interested. Answers are probably going to be somewhat quick, since I put off doing this all day and will have to go to bed soon. Spoilers, ho.

Tarou: Alas, I thought him cool until I watched the first episode of his own series. I will always hereafter remember that he planted the evil space plant that ate his doggie -- and then didn't even notice that the doggie got munched!

Mebius got recalled so he could get stronger for the battle to come. (Yes, this is intentionally ominous.)

Quick synopsis on the conversation between Ryuu and Mirai in 30: Mirai's upset that he can't fight to protect the Earth. Ryuu asks why the Ultramen keep fighting (see ep. 8 where this question came up previously) and Mirai says that once upon a time his people were human too. Ryuu's a little confused by this, since Mirai looks human enough to him. Mirai says he's only borrowing human form, using the power of Ultraman. He goes on to say that one day they they ended up with this great power, even though it wasn't something they sought after. They figured since they had it, they had an obligation to use it to protect others. Mirai then points out the Ultra Star, which is where he's from. He says it's 30,000,000 light years from Earth, thus demonstrating two things: first, obviously Ultramen have figured out FTL travel, and second, Mirai always takes the long way around. (The Ultra Star being located in M-78 in Orion, and is actually only about 1,600 light years from Earth -- practically in our backyard!) At any rate, he says the light hitting Earth now from the Ultra Star is from back when Moebius's people were still human.* Ryuu goes "oh, so the Ultramen are protecting this planet since they see it as a reflection of their own." Meanwhile, Mirai teleports away. Ryuu shouts at him "Mirai! There's something important I haven't told you yet!" **

* Poke me to finish cleaning up the translation for the first chapter of Ultra Zero Story, which sheds some interesting and somewhat chilling light on this story. (If you'll pardon the pun.) Technically the Ultra Star went online 30,000,000 years ago, so based on Mirai's description of how far away the Ultra Star is from Earth, the light hitting Earth now is from right around when the Ultramen turned Ultra.

** And the crazed fangirl says: How did I miss this line before now???

Ep. 34 I will always remember fondly as the episode I got to watch live. Unfortunately that also always reminds me of slow-motion sumo, so that's kind of scary... (It also tends to make me think of the comment I read: "Is that a sweet potato in your icon?")

Ep. 35: Ryuu's hair... *shudder* Why...? The actor has nice enough hair. He is not inherently doomed to awful hair.

This episode has always kind of made me go "did Mirai wake up on the stupid side of the bed that morning?" He seems to spend the whole episode forgetting that he's telepathic. Otherwise, there is much coolness in this episode.

Ep. 37: Ugh, this is my second least favorite episode. I look forward to finishing translating this episode only because it represents the end of the sucky episodes (I hope -- unless I end up with the Super Mama episode as well, *shudder*) and there will only be coolness from there to the end. Stupid butt-waggling weird dialect-speaking dancing totem pole. :P

Ep. 38: There is much visual effects love in this episode. It is a lonely anchor of coolness in a sea of episodes I never re-watch. Isana's last message about "watch your cockpit transmissions -- I could hear them" was love. I fell off the couch I was laughing so hard. Particularly since I had been sitting there for a couple of episodes going "dude, you're transmitting all that in the clear. Anyone can intercept that. Don't you think this whole "Mirai = Moebius is just our little secret" thing would be a lot more secret if you would quit bloody well broadcasting it?!?

Cirdancirdan_havens on September 10th, 2007 07:17 am (UTC)
Ep 30: Wow! Ultramen are ultra cool! :D When he says they used to be human, I assume he's talking about the powers. Is that how ultrapeople look? Or are the ultrapeople more human-looking but wear a uniform/armor. They do mention/imply the space garrison uniform thing when talking to Tsurugi. I know they take on different human forms when on earth, but what about in their world of light? Or is that getting far too technical and I should just stick to thinking of them as random light beings?

** What did Ryuu forget to tell him?

Ep 35: :) But you already know I'm inclined towards Hikari.

Ep 37: Awww, how can you hate it? It has the Ultrapapa! :D I thought it great and most amusing. Totem pole guy is stupid. Better when the monsters can't talk.

Ep 38: Ah! That's how.

Random: Why isn't Zoffy known as Ultra Zoffy?

Ep 41: Ultraman 80's finishing move is somewhat disturbing. Either the attack is coming out of his belly button or something. o_O

Is that why it became Ultraman Mebius & Ultraman Brothers? I didn't notice it before or think I did cursorily, but I did notice more Ultramen. I like the other Ultramen popping up every now and then, but it does get overwhelming. I want Mebi to be Mebiusing around, not disappearing into a sea of other Ultramen. My only complaint about them all. Tsurugi was better balanced, probably because the focus was still on Mirai and Tsurugi was just used as a foil. Superman boyscout vs. Dark Knight Batman.

Voices: Oh! Hikari is Aphrodite in Saint Seiya. That explains why he sounded familiar. Not that he talks that much.
Sandpanthersandpanther on September 10th, 2007 02:35 pm (UTC)
30: Nope, they were actually human. Then their star went out and they built a new one, that they named the Plasma Star, which would give light forever. Just before it went online these mysterious dudes in UFOs showed up and introduced Something into it that caused plants and animals to mutate. It also caused the residents of the Land of Light to change into Ultramen. So basically they flip on their sun, weirdness happens, and they all wake up a whole lot taller, going "huh. That's weird." Oh yeah, and the planet being overrun by giant plants and animals.

I like the technical. I spend a lot of time poking at it to make sense.

Tsurugi's the only blue Ultraman to show up in the Showa universe, and Mirai's comment before about "you with your blue body aren't a member of the Space Garrison" implies to me that there hadn't previously been any blue Ultramen in the S.G. (or not that Moebius knows of.)

Er... Heisei vs. Showa Ultramen is a discussion for another time. It'll get long. But that divide is why, I think, this series has two main characters, one from each generation. And one hosted and one not... they did a really nice job pulling in elements from all the series over time while still keeping the original universe the original universe.

** No clue what Ryuu forgot to tell him. I could give a fangirl explanation, but I suspect the real explanation is that he was going to give that speech he gave later on about Mirai being a member of GUYS so it's his duty to go defend the Earth. *shrug* Will think on that further.

Not sure on Zoffy. He's always just Zoffy. Among themselves the other Ultramen usually drop the "Ultra". I think in many ways it's just a title anyway. (Though as #2 in the Space Garrison Zoffy should be entitled to a title anyway.)

Mebius is the 40 year anniversary, so that's why all the historic Ultramen from the Showa universe show up. The movie doesn't really pull in the more human cast, it's really about nostalgia and all the classic Ultramen showing up.
Cirdancirdan_havens on September 10th, 2007 09:13 pm (UTC)
30: Love the backstory and definitely a nice thing to add/remind people of in the 40th anniversary show.

Tsurugi being blue, I just assumed it meant he wasn't part of the Space Garrison but still a member of that planet. Then he stayed blue when he became Hikari. So is he still not part of the SG then? Maybe it's all a moot point since I think Ryuu's supposed to inherit Hikari's powers.

Oh, it's a company thing then I guess. And yeah, I kind figured they have to show up to sell more toys too. *nod nod*
Sandpanthersandpanther on September 11th, 2007 02:42 pm (UTC)
Blue Ultramen didn't start until the Heisei series (which are all alternate universes except Mebius. So Hikari's a nod to that half of the franchise/a way to bring that part of the franchise in.

Tsurugi/Hikari's from somewhere else, not M-78. Kind of like how Leo and Astra are from somewhere else as well. I don't know if it every comes up where he's from. If it is, I don't know it. Also don't know if he joined the Space Garrison, though I'm expecting he did, based on a conversation he has with Zoffy in ep. 15.

That Wiki article is kind of misleading/incomplete. I read the bit about Ryuu's supposed to inherit Hikari's powers and went "hunh? I guess you could interpret it that way..." Though it sort of implies a whole lot that may or may not be the case.
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